Slow Creaky Computers

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Which operating system are you using?

Poll ended at Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:14 am

Windows XP Home
12
63%
Windows XP Pro
4
21%
Windows Vista (any version)
2
11%
Windows 95, 98 or Me
1
5%
A none Microsoft Operating System (Linux etc)
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 19

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Slow Creaky Computers

Post by BobMason » Sun Dec 16, 2007 8:14 am

Over the past few days I have been made aware of several computers running really slowly or not behaving themselves as they should so having successfully got them running again as they should, I thought I would pass on to you what I have done to the machines brought to me to get them going again. The following instructions apply to any Microsoft Windows machine before Vista. The instructions for Vista are similar but Vista will do everything it can to pursuade you not to do this procedure by making you give administrator permision for almost every mouse click (you are right - I don't like Vista)

Basically speaking you give the computer's main HDD a thorough clean out deleting all the files that accumulate as you browse the web looking for comps. The problem is that your HDD is full of temp files, temporary internet files, cookies and restore points. We need to work through them one at a time and get rid of them. So..............

First of all print this message so that you can follow it step by step - there is a lot for you to do
  • First of all we need to be able to see the junk so open My Computer, go to Tools on the menu bar then click on the View Tab.
    Scroll down till you can see Hidden Files and Folders
    Click on Show Hidden Files and Folders
    Untick Hide extensions for known File types
    Untick Hide protected operating system files (Ignore the warning that will popup on your screen)

Next we have to go and find the files - this may require a bit of guesswork on your part as I can't see your computer screen. If you can’t follow what I am telling you to do or it doesn't make sense RING ME on 0113 2380 673 and I will talk you through the next bit with you telling me what is on your screen.

Right let's have a go..........

  • In My Computer find C drive and double click on it to open it
    Find the Documents and Settings folder and double click to open it
    In there you should find a folder called Administrator, a folder called All Users and one with your name on it or it may say owner. (This is the tricky bit as you need to find the folder that contains your files)

    Double click on the folder that is yours and open it
    If you have done it right you will see a star shaped folder called favourites, one called Desktop and one called Start Menu. There will also be several folders that are a lot paler then the rest and it is these we will be working with.
    Start with the folder called Recent - Double click on it and when it is open press Ctrl+A on your keyboard to select all its contents
    Press the delete key, ignore any warnings about ini files (Say yes to all) and make a cuppa while they delete
    Next go to the folder Local settings, double click on it to open it then go to the folder called Temp and open it
    Ctrl+A again and delete - word of warning here, at least one file will not delete as it is the temp file for the session of windows you are in. All the rest of the files will delete so keep trying till they are all gone.
    Next go to the Temporary Internet Files folder. Double click to open it then Ctrl+A followed by delete and get rid of the lot
    Last in this section open the History folder and once again Ctrl+A and delete the lot

That has got rid of the remains from internet comping - now for some more serious deleting
  • Close My Computer and find the My Computer Icon on your desktop
    Right click on it
    Go to Properties

    (If you haven't got a My Computer icon click on Start, open the Control Panel, click on the System Icon)

    Click on the System Restore tab
    Click on Turn off System Restore on all drives (This will delete all your restore points which I am guessing takes up a lot of room on your HDD - one person who did this found 5.3 Gigabytes of new free space)
    Ignore the warning and go ahead and delete the restore points
    If I am right it will take a fair bit of time so go and make another cuppa
    Once it has finished deleting and the box says that Restore is turned off close the box by clicking on OK

    Open My Computer
    Find C: Drive and right click on it
    Go to Properties and you should see that C: now has a healthy amount of pink free space on it
    Close My Computer

Now for the last bit just to make sure...........
  • Click on Start
    Go to All Programs > Accessories > System Tools > Disk Cleanup
    Select C: Drive
    On the Disk Cleanup Tab select Temporary Internet Files, Recycle Bin, WebClient/Publisher Temporary Files (The last one may not be there)
    Click OK
    Because you have already removed a lot of the rubbish it should only take seconds to run
    Once it has finished right click on the My Computer icon and go to Properties
    Click on the System Restore tab
    Untick Turn off System Restore on all drives
    Click on OK

That's it the job is done and you should find that your computer will run faster and smoother without all the holdups

I hope this helps

Every Blessing

Bob

PS
I have added the poll to see if compers follow the national average in the worldwide trends of operating system usage. This would help me to design the webpages I write as every operating system favours different internet browsers.
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Post by jjuli2 » Sun Dec 16, 2007 8:25 am

Thanks Bob. I will definitely try that, I just need a few more hours in the day at the min. :roll:

Hope the op went well. :hugs:
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Post by patootie » Sun Dec 16, 2007 10:45 am

I shall tackle this over Christmas .. I already do some of the first bits .. but there is nothing better than a 'deep down cleanse' ...
thanks Bob .. :hugs:

And can I just say .. I use XP home .. but my preference is for Windows ME .. that NEVER went wrong or caused me glitches for 6 wonderfully happy computering years.. I really hate this XP home .. I've never had so much trouble from an ops sys before .. and I've only been using XP for a year :sb_duh:

The problem with XP home seems to be that it was created for 'computer dummies' .. if you never alter a setting and allow your computer to fully run itself including the myraiad of daily updates it seems to feel is necessary .. then it's fine ..

But once you try and put in your own preferences or take control of the scheduled updates .. the flippin' software sulks .. does a prima donna act and gets it's pooter knickers in a right old twist ...

Grrr ... I will be the boss .. I will not have my computer think it's boss :lol2:

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Post by Sammy30 » Sun Dec 16, 2007 10:58 am

I will try this aswell, thank you. But probably after christmas.
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Post by dawn1 » Sun Dec 16, 2007 10:59 am

thanks bob , will have a go at a good clean out , when i have a bit more time :D

hope everything went well with the operation :hugs:
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Win XP Home v Win XP Pro

Post by BobMason » Sun Dec 16, 2007 11:05 am

Hi Toots

Broadly speaking you are right as lots of the admin tools are missing from XP Home. I run a network so I use XP Pro and have very little trouble with it once I have it set how I like it. Jackie is on XP Pro too and once I have her computer setup it runs for months without me doing anything except remind her to delete the junk.

One way to keep the junk down is to use this little utility Clear XP History, It deletes the contents of History, the contents of the recyccle bin, temp files (as long as you use the default place for temp files), Temporary Internet Files and other such rubbish. If you run it at the end of ever session just before you shut down, it takes about 5 seconds to run and will keep your computer running quickly and smoothly. You can download the utility from my website at http://www.omega-cottage.co.uk/jcxp.zip

If you really want to swap to XP Pro you can buy a fully legal OEM copy online from CCL Computers for £85 http://www.cclonline.com/product-info.a ... =e85-05040 Don't be tempted by the pirate sites, yes it will install but you will quickly find that it won't update and Microsoft have ways of making it stop working - you have been warned
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Post by patootie » Sun Dec 16, 2007 12:42 pm

I have my computer set to delete all history and temp int files each and every time I come off line .. that way there is nothing much 'lurking' around ...

Then on a weekly basis I do a deeper clean up .. and once a month I do a full maintenance jobbie on it .. :clap:

I've been running my computers like this since the late 90's .. and so far 'touch wood' .. I haven't had any nasty events creep up on me other than a power surge getting through a Belkin Surgemaster :shock: and destroying part of a hard drive (thankfully the 'end' so most info could be rescued and thank you Belkin for all the compensation you sent me) .... and an almighty software crash a few years ago .. when the power company flicked the on off switch several times in as many seconds .. thankfully that was when I had ME and a quick run of the Recovery disk put all back in place .. :clap:

Heaven only knows what I'll do when I get a 'real' problem occur .. heheheh ... I think I'll just have to keep my fingers crossed it never darkens my door .. :roll:

PS .. Thanks again Bob .. I have downloaded your 'clean up' software .. I like 'belt and braces' at all times with computers :thumb:

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Post by Naomi17 » Sun Dec 16, 2007 3:21 pm

Seems i'm the only one running Vista :D

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Post by BobMason » Sun Dec 16, 2007 3:46 pm

Naomi - all the comments about temp files etc apply equally to Vista as they do to all the other windows versions. My main computer boots into both Windows XP Pro and Vista Home Premium - I have to delete remp files etc from both sides of my computer as they can both clog up
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Post by wiganone » Mon Dec 17, 2007 12:21 am

:lol2: Thanks for the info Bob :hugs:

Hope your feeling better :lol2:
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Post by pudsey » Mon Dec 17, 2007 10:00 am

thanks bob just done what you said my computer is running much fast cheers :Cheer:

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Post by clarkmob » Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:02 pm

:shock: :Cheer: :Cheer: :Cheer: :Cheer: just plucked up courage to try your instructions out ----------------wow :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: absolutely brilliant - and how clever of you, bob - even i could follow the instructions :oops: :oops: :oops: :lol: :lol: :lol: my computer has been getting slower and slower since my son left home and when he visits he never has time to sort it out (too busy eating!!!!)
thanks so much :hugs:
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Post by kagsyturner » Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:51 pm

i just went to do this and when i double clicked on the C drive it told me that i should not modify anything in there and they had hidden it all :shock: or words to that effect? :oops:
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Post by wiganone » Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:43 pm

Bob can Ijust ask why it won't let me print this out?
It prints the results bit at the top and your photo :D but will not print all the info?
Copied and pasted and still won't print?
The exactly same thing happens with jax's posts, only you and jax I can't print out, do you know why this is?
My printer prints everything else :shock:

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Post by BobMason » Tue Jan 22, 2008 7:32 pm

Hi Dennise

I have just tried to print this thread and it printed just fine in Internet Explorer 7. I will try all the other browsers I have on my computer and get back to you

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Post by BobMason » Tue Jan 22, 2008 7:41 pm

Tried a couple of other browsers (Maxthon 2 and Safari) both of them printed the first page blank. I think this is one for Craig as I don't know how he has set up the forum.

It could be something as daft as different classes of member have different printing permissions.

If you can print from Word or other applications on your computer AND you can print other webpages then it is something to do with your account settings on the forum. I have had a look at my profile and can find nothing in there that switches off printing from the forum but Craig might know something different.

If you want the article I started this thread in a form you can print, PM me with your email address and I will pop it in an email for you.

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Post by wiganone » Tue Jan 22, 2008 9:26 pm

:Cheer: Thanks pm'd you

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Post by patootie » Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:30 pm

I finally remembered to give my computer a spring clean .. I'm not sure whether to feel 'rather disappointed' or 'really pleased with myself' :roll: :lol:

Disappointed because I 'only' found 16Mb of space .. and 'really pleased' because I have a lot of these kind of jobs set up on 'auto' .. my history is deleted daily .. Temp Int every time I log off .. Temp files weekly .. and I've always hated the 'Restore' feature .. and have never used it ..

If I am really unsure about installing something or conversely deleting it .. I do set up a restore point before attemping the task .. but once I am satisfied all is well I turn off Restore again .. because it flippin' well eats hard drive space .. and will store viruses long after you have wiped them off with your AV .. they lurk there ready to spring up again should you ever go back to that restore point .. :doh:

But on the whole I am very pleased Bob .. I did get rid of a bit of crapola ... and can feel really pleased I am pretty much keeping on top of the regular and routine maintenance .. :Cheer:

Thank you Bob :hugs:

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